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...how it is for those who pursue the matter with zeal. And this is not just idle chatter, as most mortal things are; it has been clearly shown to men of good character both to observe the spiritual exercises and the traditions of the elders and the ranks of subordination. For instance, this alone will be asked regarding the placement of the "skirmishing" likely referring to the initial, lighter arguments or dialectical points used to test an opponent portions: how one must philosophize and to what extent. For in this, piety is a light thing, holy and unstained, since it is even able to compete, just as the pollutions of mortals appear before the stars. They give thanks to the common impulse—an image of things in motion—and to the powers in those things already subject to the bitterness of perceptions, and so also to the foolishness of old age; likewise for every need, even the things among all of us, having been set out as evidence: and there are ancient powers :-
The question of whether one should philosophize? after eating meat
Whether one must philosophize and when one must philosophize; toward what one should hope; and at what times one must philosophize; and how. That those must philosophize for whom this surplus gain remains; and how one must be very cautious in it; not among those whose resources are weak for undertaking necessities, or to chatter about things beyond one's means; or the idle talk of decent actions; or the talk arising from those seeking ease, or something of things divine and holy; or the talk of those who began with lesser beauties, or concerning the leaving behind of worse things. What sort the whole care is has been shown principally to all, and before all others, every trial, so that through this even difficulties enter in. For to those for whom the great melody of character has been distinguished, even this part is a support. For those whose strength is directed toward what is serious, it is their lot to luxuriate at the limit of idle talk and they take courage in what is pleasant. But how is it for those who are born? It is sufficient as if in a game played by players. But for such people as must philosophize, what kind of philosophy is to be done and to what extent, or before such a point, as is shown in the arguments. And to the extent that it is equal to powers even after eating meat; for in this way we have taken away both what we endured and, in turn, according to power. For if the worlds were not so, and both are displayed according to power; for to those experienced in the middle states, the things well-laid-down will be established. For that which brings the lighter part of the warmth—but these are most weak. For one part leads to the destruction of power, just as in those things that are greatly surrounding, they allow it to cool. And thus they say the power and the desperation descend into the body. But even the "glues" original: "kolloi" – a common Neoplatonic metaphor for the passions and physical needs that bind the soul to the material body of the mind, and always of foods, but the complexion, preparing to act; whence if something noble has been labored upon by them. And because of this, such intense grief, yet the wonderful grief has a release, both innate to this thing, or simply; just as the fear of cold is innate to need, but also all violence again touches them more greatly, in no way being entirely labored by power. Such things are lighter, especially to the senses, and to those who have already suffered. And as many fears as are harmful, lest they be persuaded through the labor. For example, the well-formed; and when one gazes at the sun; for it has been shown to be the mark of those who are mad. And just as for those always in labor, they blacken the pupil with fear and they loosen the limb and the harmony. And more so than mortals, the bodies are a subject of inquiry, and the melodic is hot, so that even with a few grains of wheat they surpass many parts. And it is a cause of wrath to subordinate this, and likewise to have treatments for the swallowed Reason original: "logos" – here referring to the internal rational principle or the "word" which guides the soul, which is cohesive and cannot run. Instead of the body, it is primarily the soul or something else that is pressed; just as being pressed is natural: -
And I do not say this, that one must not always remember God; into all ...?